diff --git a/CHANGELOG.md b/CHANGELOG.md
index da16ca3..5346f13 100644
--- a/CHANGELOG.md
+++ b/CHANGELOG.md
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-## v0.275.0 — a backup's data and its version travel together (R-696, `07` §6.6, D4 option A); R-695, R-691, R-694 (2026-09-26)
+## v0.275.0 — a backup's data and its version travel together (R-696, `07` §6.6, D4 option A); R-695, R-691, R-694, R-699 (2026-09-26)
 
 **MinAgent: 0.131.0** (unchanged). Needs hub v0.123.0 (unchanged). New strings: yes (hu + en, 5 keys). Evidence:
 `felhom.eu/documentation/audits/version-travel-2026-09-26/`.
@@ -33,7 +33,12 @@
   page no longer shows that value as "the first password set at install" and says to use the password valid at the
   backup — measured per app: six of seven catalog apps keep the login in their data (code-server is the exception,
   `loginAppliedEveryStart`).
-- Red-proofs (each seen failing, tree restored): `A5-redproofs/` RP1–RP5, `D2/`, `D3/`, `D4/`. Parity: one new
+- **R-699 (found live on 9202 during Part B):** a unit that is only a captured definition — a just-installed app's,
+  written by the status refresh before any backup — satisfied the update's precondition ("Tier 1 copy 2m0s old") and
+  tandoor's PostgreSQL was converted with no backup of its database. Such a unit stays listed (restorable as the
+  definition) but is never a precondition copy on Tier 1 or Tier 2 (`RestorePoint.DataProven`, `unitDataTime`); the
+  update then backs up first.
+- Red-proofs (each seen failing, tree restored): `A5-redproofs/` RP1–RP6, `D2/`, `D3/`, `D4/`. Parity: one new
   Hungarian fixture (`deploy_deployed_restored_login`); no existing fixture changed.
 
 ## v0.274.0 — kept data: a choice at reinstall, a list, a read-only view, a load (2026-09-25, `09` §3 decision 36); R-690, R-692
diff --git a/controller/internal/backup/a_version_travel_test.go b/controller/internal/backup/a_version_travel_test.go
index d2498bd..1b6aa72 100644
--- a/controller/internal/backup/a_version_travel_test.go
+++ b/controller/internal/backup/a_version_travel_test.go
@@ -574,3 +574,47 @@ func TestA4_TheOffsiteRunRecordsThePushedDataTime(t *testing.T) {
 		t.Fatalf("after a successful push the data-time record is %+v ok=%v, want the unit's data time", rec, ok)
 	}
 }
+
+// R-699 (v0.275.0) — a just-installed app's unit, captured by the status refresh before any backup ran,
+// holds only the definition. It stays LISTED (restorable as the definition) but is never a copy the
+// update's precondition leans on; after a data run it is.
+//
+// COMPANION RED-PROOF (REPORT.md): drop the DataProven skip in updateTierPoint — the precondition then
+// accepts the dump-less unit ("Tier 1 … 0s old"), which is what 9202 logged for tandoor on 2026-09-27.
+func TestR699_ADefinitionOnlyUnitIsNotAPreconditionCopy(t *testing.T) {
+	v := newVTStack(t, "16")
+	if err := v.m.captureRecoveryUnit("app", false); err != nil { // the refresh, right after the install
+		t.Fatal(err)
+	}
+	pts, _ := v.m.ListRestorePoints("app")
+	if len(pts) != 1 || pts[0].DataProven {
+		t.Fatalf("points = %+v, want one listed, NOT proven", pts)
+	}
+	any := func(UpdateTierPoint) bool { return true }
+	if p, ok, _ := v.m.UpdateRestorePoints(context.Background(), "app", any); ok {
+		t.Fatalf("the precondition accepted tier %d at %s — a unit with no data is not a copy", p.Tier, p.At)
+	}
+	// The update's own "back up first" is a data run: afterwards the unit IS a copy.
+	v.m.discoverDBs = func(context.Context) ([]DiscoveredDB, error) {
+		return []DiscoveredDB{{StackName: "app", ContainerName: "app-db", DBType: DBTypePostgres}}, nil
+	}
+	v.m.dumpOne = func(_ context.Context, db DiscoveredDB, dir string, _ *log.Logger, _ bool) DumpResult {
+		p := filepath.Join(dir, "app-postgres.sql")
+		mustWrite(t, p, pgDump(1))
+		return DumpResult{DB: db, FilePath: p}
+	}
+	v.m.perAppTier2 = func(string) error { return nil }
+	if err := v.m.RunAppBackupNow(context.Background(), "app"); err != nil {
+		t.Fatal(err)
+	}
+	if _, ok, _ := v.m.UpdateRestorePoints(context.Background(), "app", any); !ok {
+		t.Fatal("after a backup the own unit is still not a copy")
+	}
+}
+
+func TestR699_ADefinitionOnlyMirrorIsNotAPreconditionCopy(t *testing.T) {
+	p := Tier2RestorePoint{Restorable: true, CopyDateProven: true, CopyLastSuccess: "2026-09-27T09:36:36Z", DataDate: "2026-09-27T09:36:36Z", DataUnproven: true}
+	if _, ok := p.ProvenCopyTime(); ok {
+		t.Fatal("a mirror of a definition-only unit counted as a proven copy")
+	}
+}
diff --git a/controller/internal/backup/r659_whole_copy_test.go b/controller/internal/backup/r659_whole_copy_test.go
index f08ffa1..2ce0922 100644
--- a/controller/internal/backup/r659_whole_copy_test.go
+++ b/controller/internal/backup/r659_whole_copy_test.go
@@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ func r659Manager(t *testing.T, files bool, tiers map[int]time.Time) *Manager {
 		if !ok {
 			return nil, false
 		}
-		return []RestorePoint{{Time: at.Format(time.RFC3339), Tier: 1}}, true
+		return []RestorePoint{{Time: at.Format(time.RFC3339), Tier: 1, DataProven: true}}, true
 	}
 	m.updateOffsiteTimesFn = func(context.Context) (map[string]time.Time, error) {
 		at, ok := tiers[UpdateTierOffsite]
diff --git a/controller/internal/backup/removed_units.go b/controller/internal/backup/removed_units.go
index eaf6c58..e682a36 100644
--- a/controller/internal/backup/removed_units.go
+++ b/controller/internal/backup/removed_units.go
@@ -77,22 +77,33 @@ func (m *Manager) driveLabelForRoot(root string) string {
 // copies `pre-restore-*` excluded — an update's own safety dump is not a backup); the manifest's time
 // only for a unit that holds no data file at all, whose whole content is its definition.
 func unitNewestArtifact(unitDir string) (time.Time, bool) {
+	t, _, ok := unitDataTime(unitDir)
+	return t, ok
+}
+
+// unitDataTime is unitNewestArtifact plus WHETHER THE TIME IS A PROVEN DATA TIME (R-699, v0.275.0): true
+// when a data run confirmed the unit (`data` block) or it holds data files; false when the unit is only a
+// captured definition — a just-installed app's unit, written by the status refresh before any backup
+// ran. Such a unit is still LISTED (it can be restored: it is the app's definition), but it is never a
+// copy the update's precondition may lean on — measured on 9202 2026-09-27: tandoor's two-minute-old,
+// dump-less unit satisfied it and PostgreSQL was converted with no backup of the database.
+func unitDataTime(unitDir string) (time.Time, bool, bool) {
 	fi, err := os.Stat(UnitManifestFile(unitDir))
 	if err != nil {
-		return time.Time{}, false
+		return time.Time{}, false, false
 	}
 	if man := readManifest(UnitManifestFile(unitDir)); man != nil {
 		if t, ok := man.Data.DataTime(); ok {
-			return t, true
+			return t, true, true
 		}
 	}
 	var newest time.Time
 	newest = newestDataFile(UnitDBDumpDir(unitDir), ".sql", newest)
 	newest = newestDataFile(UnitVolumeDumpDir(unitDir), ".tar", newest)
 	if newest.IsZero() {
-		return fi.ModTime(), true
+		return fi.ModTime(), false, true
 	}
-	return newest, true
+	return newest, true, true
 }
 
 // ListRemovedAppUnits walks backups/primary/ on every connected registered drive and returns the
diff --git a/controller/internal/backup/restore_points.go b/controller/internal/backup/restore_points.go
index c30b7e1..481505a 100644
--- a/controller/internal/backup/restore_points.go
+++ b/controller/internal/backup/restore_points.go
@@ -21,6 +21,10 @@ type RestorePoint struct {
 	ShortID    string `json:"short_id"`    // opaque label; POST /backup/restore uses it for logging only
 	Tier       int    `json:"tier"`        // always 1 (see above)
 	DriveLabel string `json:"drive_label"` // registered storage label; empty for the SSD fallback
+	// DataProven (R-699, v0.275.0) — the time is a PROVEN data time (a data run confirmed the unit, or it
+	// holds data files). False for a unit that is only a captured definition: listed, never a copy the
+	// update's precondition may lean on. Not part of the page payload.
+	DataProven bool `json:"-"`
 }
 
 // restorePointShortID is the single keep-side restore point's identifier. Hungarian ("local"),
@@ -60,7 +64,7 @@ func (m *Manager) ListRestorePoints(stackName string) (points []RestorePoint, fo
 	}
 
 	// v0.275.0 (R-696): the unit's DATA time (unitNewestArtifact), never the manifest's refresh time.
-	newest, ok := unitNewestArtifact(RecoveryUnitPath(nsRoot, stackName))
+	newest, proven, ok := unitDataTime(RecoveryUnitPath(nsRoot, stackName))
 	if !ok {
 		return []RestorePoint{}, true // no recovery unit yet — "no backup" is a valid answer
 	}
@@ -70,6 +74,7 @@ func (m *Manager) ListRestorePoints(stackName string) (points []RestorePoint, fo
 		ShortID:    restorePointShortID,
 		Tier:       1,
 		DriveLabel: m.sysDriveLabelFor(stackName),
+		DataProven: proven,
 	}}, true
 }
 
diff --git a/controller/internal/backup/tier2_restore.go b/controller/internal/backup/tier2_restore.go
index c731c88..da56ca7 100644
--- a/controller/internal/backup/tier2_restore.go
+++ b/controller/internal/backup/tier2_restore.go
@@ -100,6 +100,9 @@ type Tier2Coverage struct {
 	// demo-hp a copy holding a dump written at 00:30Z was dated by a manifest from the day before.
 	// RFC3339 UTC; "" when the unit is not readable.
 	UnitDataDate string
+	// UnitDataUnproven (R-699, v0.275.0) — the mirrored unit holds no proven data (no `data` block, no
+	// data file): restorable as a definition, never a copy the update's precondition may lean on.
+	UnitDataUnproven bool
 }
 
 // CanRestore reports whether the FILE restore has any subtree to read at all.
@@ -148,8 +151,9 @@ func tier2CoverageAt(destBase string) Tier2Coverage {
 	// R-403: ask the package itself when it was made. Reading the artifact rather than the status
 	// record is what makes this date impossible to overstate.
 	c.UnitPackageDate = unitPackageDate(unitDir)
-	if newest, ok := unitNewestArtifact(unitDir); ok {
+	if newest, proven, ok := unitDataTime(unitDir); ok {
 		c.UnitDataDate = newest.UTC().Format(time.RFC3339)
+		c.UnitDataUnproven = !proven
 	}
 	return c
 }
diff --git a/controller/internal/backup/update_guard.go b/controller/internal/backup/update_guard.go
index ae82674..f7110f6 100644
--- a/controller/internal/backup/update_guard.go
+++ b/controller/internal/backup/update_guard.go
@@ -46,6 +46,9 @@ type Tier2RestorePoint struct {
 	// DataDate (v0.275.0, R-696) — the mirrored unit's DATA time (unitNewestArtifact on the mirror): when
 	// the data the copy holds was written, which a mirror run copies but never makes newer. "" = unknown.
 	DataDate string
+	// DataUnproven (R-699) — the mirrored unit is only a captured definition (no `data`, no data file):
+	// never a copy the update may lean on.
+	DataUnproven bool
 }
 
 // restorePointFromCoverage is the pure half of the predicate.
@@ -58,6 +61,7 @@ func restorePointFromCoverage(cov Tier2Coverage) Tier2RestorePoint {
 		PackagePreserved: preserved,
 		CopyLastSuccess:  cov.CopyLastSuccess,
 		DataDate:         cov.UnitDataDate,
+		DataUnproven:     cov.UnitDataUnproven,
 	}
 }
 
@@ -86,7 +90,7 @@ func (m *Manager) Tier2UnitRestorePoint(stackName string) (Tier2RestorePoint, er
 // actually mirrored the unit — EXCEPT when the run preserved an older package (R-403), in which case
 // the package date is the honest one, because that is what the copy really holds.
 func (p Tier2RestorePoint) ProvenCopyTime() (time.Time, bool) {
-	if !p.Restorable || !p.CopyDateProven {
+	if !p.Restorable || !p.CopyDateProven || p.DataUnproven {
 		return time.Time{}, false
 	}
 	src := p.CopyLastSuccess
@@ -269,6 +273,11 @@ func (m *Manager) updateTierPoint(ctx context.Context, stackName string, tier in
 		}
 		pts, _ := list(stackName)
 		for _, rp := range pts {
+			if !rp.DataProven {
+				// R-699: a unit that is only a captured definition is not a copy of the app's data.
+				m.logger.Printf("[INFO] [backup] update precondition for %s: the own unit holds no data yet (no backup run has confirmed it) — not a copy", stackName)
+				continue
+			}
 			if at, err := time.Parse(time.RFC3339, rp.Time); err == nil {
 				return UpdateTierPoint{Tier: tier, At: at}, true
 			}
diff --git a/controller/internal/backup/update_tiers_test.go b/controller/internal/backup/update_tiers_test.go
index cecabfc..c46024e 100644
--- a/controller/internal/backup/update_tiers_test.go
+++ b/controller/internal/backup/update_tiers_test.go
@@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ func noTier2(string) (Tier2RestorePoint, error) {
 }
 func tier1At(at time.Time) func(string) ([]RestorePoint, bool) {
 	return func(string) ([]RestorePoint, bool) {
-		return []RestorePoint{{Time: at.UTC().Format(time.RFC3339), ShortID: "helyi", Tier: 1}}, true
+		return []RestorePoint{{Time: at.UTC().Format(time.RFC3339), ShortID: "helyi", Tier: 1, DataProven: true}}, true
 	}
 }
 func noTier1(string) ([]RestorePoint, bool) { return []RestorePoint{}, true }